Written by Nandita Bajaj, the host of the podcast:

Raised in Greece by progressive, highly educated parents, Elisa felt little pressure to become a mother and ultimately chose a childfree life shaped by concerns for her own mental health and the future of life on Earth. We explore her work on ecological grief and why society often overlooks grief related to environmental loss and the death of companion animals. Dedicated to the protection of animals and the more-than-human world, Elisa finds deep satisfaction in the freedoms that her nomadic, minimalist, childfree lifestyle offers her. 

You can listen to the podcast here.